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 Post subject: New Forum Server
PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2013 1:31 pm 
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I don't know about anyone else, but I can definitely tell you're on a new server. It is very fast!

Good job, Xojo Inc.! :)

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 Post subject: Re: New Forum Server
PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2013 1:42 pm 
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Jason_Adams wrote:
I don't know about anyone else, but I can definitely tell you're on a new server. It is very fast!

Good job, Xojo Inc.! :)


It is significantly faster here too.

I wonder what server specs and hosting conditions the forum is using now?

I'd guess a mac mini without other customers although I expect they're running other services like the main site, the new forum, etc.

Btw, this forum is (still) php based so you can see the speed of php.


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PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2013 2:35 pm 
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It's the same VPS we're providing for our Xojo Cloud service launching this June.

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Thom McGrath wrote:
It's the same VPS we're providing for our Xojo Cloud service launching this June.


Good.

Is the new forum going to be php based, WE based or something else?

Is only one WE app allowed on the VPS or can a user have many for the included price?


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PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2013 8:37 pm 
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The new forum is still PHP. We like to make a WE forum, but it's a matter of resources.

A Xojo Cloud VPS is configured for only WE apps. They don't have FTP, PHP, Python, etc. they are for WE apps only.

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PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2013 10:01 pm 
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Thom McGrath wrote:
The new forum is still PHP. We like to make a WE forum, but it's a matter of resources.


I was wondering if the new forum would be a WE app and if not why?

What do you mean a matter of resources?
Do you mean the WE app wouldn't be able to handle the expected load of users?
Do you mean the WE app would take up too many server resources on the VPS?

Thom McGrath wrote:
A Xojo Cloud VPS is configured for only WE apps. They don't have FTP, PHP, Python, etc. they are for WE apps only.


So how many WE apps can a customer run for the $50 a month?
Is it only one? Does it depend on how much load his WE app uses?

Thanks.


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PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2013 10:08 pm 
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A Xojo Cloud VPS is configured for only WE apps. They don't have FTP, PHP, Python, etc. they are for WE apps only.
How do we upload our apps if there is no FTP?


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J.Sh3ppard wrote:
I was wondering if the new forum would be a WE app and if not why?

What do you mean a matter of resources?
Do you mean the WE app wouldn't be able to handle the expected load of users?
Do you mean the WE app would take up too many server resources on the VPS?

No, I mean human resources. We have a lot to do, and writing our own forum software is not high on the priority list. We've had some fantastic ideas, but trust me when I say our ideas always exceed our manpower.

J.Sh3ppard wrote:
So how many WE apps can a customer run for the $50 a month?
Is it only one? Does it depend on how much load his WE app uses?

No artificial restriction. You can rent a server and put anywhere between 0 and ∞ apps on it. Of course, you'll run out of RAM, CPU, and/or HD space long before you hit that ∞. It's up to you to decide if your apps require a more powerful server.

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dgdavidge wrote:
How do we upload our apps if there is no FTP?

The IDE does it using a custom API. You simply press the build button, and the IDE handles the rest.

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 Post subject: Re: New Forum Server
PostPosted: Fri May 10, 2013 6:21 pm 
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While this forum may be faster than the old one... One thing that IS not faster, as a matter of fact MUCH MUCH slower is email notification about updates to subscribed topics.

Before I would get an email within an hour of someone responding to a subscribed post.

Now, that delay is close to 12 hours......

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DaveS wrote:
While this forum may be faster than the old one... One thing that IS not faster, as a matter of fact MUCH MUCH slower is email notification about updates to subscribed topics.

Before I would get an email within an hour of someone responding to a subscribed post.

Now, that delay is close to 12 hours......

That is temporary. The server's firewall was allowing e-mail out, but was blocking DNS lookups, so they couldn't actually get sent. Emails have been queuing up for the past week. Greg fixed the firewall today, and the backlog of emails are flowing out. Once the queue is empty, everything should return to normal.

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Thanks.. :)

Was confused when I started going thru the emails and thinking..."I've already read that post...and that one, and that one"'


FYI.... I got the email about your response TWO MINUTES after you posted it... so I think the queue is clean :D

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