So the project was completed and 'perfected' by the 5th month...yet RS has been working on their release for nearly 5 years...6...7 years?
It will be about 12 mos by the time conference rolls around
I think it's great that they're trying to develop proprietary compilation methods for software...but this has already left them slightly behind schedule...some newer companies which have only existed for under a year have already created cross-platform software development environments for not only Windows, Mac, Linux, and the web...but Android, iOS, Blackberry, Symbian, ARM-compatible platforms...and a whole myriad...solely because they didn't 're-invent' wheels first..but used the wheels that were already in place with custom front-ends to get them where they are...then have slowly 'upgraded' to new wheels...
Actually we have the reverse issue
We already HAVE an existing compiler that we wrote years ago (pre 2005- which is the second one) as at the time there really were no tool kits like LLVM around to write a compiler with.
Now there are & we're moving our code base to a completely new compiler back end based on LLVM (64 bit etc)
It's easy to move fast when you have no pre-existing customers to worry about breaking their code.
We don't have that luxury.
So why not just use the LLVM compiled version of GCC which is cross-platform available...so it runs on windows, Mac, and Linux...and can compile code for ios on all 3? Gcc handles debugging and could be read through an RS shell and the corresponding errors could be fed back to the IDE and the offending code could be "debugged" as normal? This also reduces framework overheads so an iOS application which should be around 400kb-3Mb won't end up being 10-20Mb? And even then gcc also comes as a precompiled library (single file) for dynamic compilations without having the overhead of the entire gcc installation...and as new iOS sdks become available, the developers of RS wouldn't have to constantly be releasing new updates since the sdk could just be updated (yes for Windows, Mac, Linux)... and apple releases a new iOS version with "major" changes every 6 months. So new features and code capabilities would be usable from real studio late just as apple releases another major update with new features...eventually they will slow down...but not anytime soon
just trying to help RS out as I'm dedicated and committed to RS.. Which is one of the reasons I "moon-light" in other communities such as the open source livecode and many others...to find out how they're managing to move along so much quicker with less resources and next to no initial help building castles and oasis' in desserts over-night. (at least I've found the RS team to be more seasoned intellectually...while the other dev teams are basically a bunch of HS dropouts and college dropouts..or so they seem listening to and talking with them). What I've found is they take the quickest route (use what already is available) to get where they need to be...and then build it up from the ground up from scratch...livecode use to use gcc up until last year...and now they completed a custom compiler which relies on a special packaged version of the IOS sdk...which allows them to have an upgrade including new apple features..only an hour after apple releases them. That's amazing! Others have designed 'emulators' basically that raw text code is bound to and interpreted once on the device (using native and custom controls) and I've learned about a dozen ways to achieve the same thing..and created one myself using the mother of ios herself...objective-c...which remains out of the users view completely..kind of like having an interpreter stand between two people and relaying messages as theyre spoken in each native tongue.
as "keeper" of the second largest active real studios community next to these forums, I'd like to see more people interacting and 'spreading-the-fire' perhaps with what's "behind closed doors which remains unspoken" this opportunity wil arise. I want to see people getting excited like they did with microsoft's visual basic...and I'm constantly 'persuading' people into why RS is better as a
Developer myself using over 2 dozen languages... And as
Soon as I almost have them hooked..."oh did you see this? So and so has this and this and this plus this and this ...and wow look at this." and it's always some rinky-dink little group that suddenly flourishes overnight to steal RS's glory
real studio belongs at or near the top and just as they start to reach the apex..the mountain always jumps higher. We have an estimated 100,000 users...over how long? 16..17 years? Livecode..over 1 million users their first year...nme...over a million users and they're just turning 1 year old... I'm praying this year brings record astounding numbers like this to us... Let's cross fingers norm and everybody.
Back to topic...regardless, Geoff is father of my 'Bride' (real studio)...and I'm not about to disrespect the in-laws or their wishes