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 Post subject: IDE and Debugger almost grinding to a halt...
PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2013 2:11 pm 
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Am I the only one who experiences this; After running for only a few hours (most of them just idling), the IDE starts getting slower and slower, typing takes forever since each character takes seconds to display, menu actions takes 10-20 seconds (if not more) and compiling, debugging almost grinds to a halt. :?

Activity Monitor show RS running at 50-99% while idling(!). :shock:

I'm using the latest release 2012.r2, though not the latest model iMac (2008 3.06GHz, 4Gb) OS X 10.8.2, but this is not the first release to do this. I've experienced in a lot of releases.

Any ideas? Should I just accept it as a fact of life - or pony up with the cash for a new mac? (if that makes a difference)

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2013 3:44 pm 
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Open activity monitor & have a look at the # of page ins & page outs

Then click on the Real Studio process & inspect it again check the number of page ins

I suspect that your getting a lot of paging going on with only 4Gb memory - and that means things will slow down as they get written to and read from disk

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only 4Gb memory


ONLY 4Gb memory?
It was only a few years back that 512Mb was ample for my G3 and RB 5.5 to work with.
When did 4Gb become ONLY 4Gb? Thats twice what most Macs of the last few years ship with.


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I have a MacPro with 5gig of memory.... and my paging is almost ZERO... and have never experienced any lag times like your describing.... and this is from RS2007 up to RS2012r2.... from Tiger to Lion

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kermit wrote:
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only 4Gb memory


ONLY 4Gb memory?
It was only a few years back that 512Mb was ample for my G3 and RB 5.5 to work with.
When did 4Gb become ONLY 4Gb? Thats twice what most Macs of the last few years ship with.

Don't know what system you're on but Mountain Lion requires 2GB minimum. The OS alone uses quite a lot some times. I currently have about 6 small apps idling here and I have 5,5GB free of my 12GB.
Max it! It's cheap ;)
Sorry about the "off-topic" post :)

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Well - unfortunately I also suspect it may be low on RAM (though I remember running flawlessly on my old G5). I just started it up, ran my project, and after less than 5 minutes it's up to 107 page ins, 746Mb real and 669 virtual memory.

It wouldn't surprise me either, if Mountain Lion consumes a lot of memory on this "old" machine. It has become somewhat of an effort to get through the day without pulling my hair out. But since this is a 2008 iMac, it's maxed at 4Gb, so it really leaves me few options. I could downgrade to an earlier version of OS X, but as a (freeware as it is) developer, I feel I have to be able to test against the latest iteration of OS X.

Do any of you have any advice as to how I persuade my wife to spend our hard earned money on a new iMac? :wink:

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Don't know what system you're on but Mountain Lion requires 2GB minimum.

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Do any of you have any advice as to how I persuade my wife to spend our hard earned money on a new iMac?


Sell the current one on ebay: they still fetch a good second hand value.
You should be able to get a new Mac for an outlay of 25% of the retail by this method.


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