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 Post subject: Re: Important XOJO questions.
PostPosted: Sat May 04, 2013 11:48 am 
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sorry but RB has been full of these for years, still is and still many that have not been fixed as promised.

I don't call the shots at our company and I have tried very hard for our development team not to abandon RS. But i suppose there's only so much 'Carrot Dangling' people can take.

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PostPosted: Sat May 04, 2013 11:51 am 
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True. Like every other software, right?

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True. Like every other software, right?


Kem It would be interesting for you to post how you see the recent progress of RS/Xojo?

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Well, I won't be doing that.

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Well, I won't be doing that.


:lol: I don't blame you.

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Listen, if you want to spend you days trashing the product, that's your business. But I've made a ton of money off the efforts of Geoff & Co., and am thrilled with its ease and their responsiveness, so I'd appreciate it if you don't imply otherwise.

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p0wn3d wrote:
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I don't call the shots at our company and I have tried very hard for our development team not to abandon RS.


I am very interested about your business and the development team. Could you please provide us a link so we can take a look at your work? Very curious about that.


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The way RS has behaved recently, would probably be illegal in most European countries. Put another way, were RS a UK company, I would have no hesitation in suing for the cost of my Enterprise upgrade, through our small claims court.


What exactly is illegal that RB did??


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PostPosted: Sat May 04, 2013 12:57 pm 
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I am very interested about your business and the development team. Could you please provide us a link so we can take a look at your work? Very curious about that


Likewise I am very interested in your affiliation with RS. How about you enlighten us all on that first please :D

Seeing as though you are so interested will happily share with you and will PM you private links so that you can look at some of our recent work with RS.

http://www.autotask.com/

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I am very interested about your business and the development team. Could you please provide us a link so we can take a look at your work? Very curious about that


Likewise I am very interested in your affiliation with RS. How about you enlighten us all on that first please :D


Beyond "customer" & "recent conference attendee" I'm pretty sure Kem's just like anyone else that's used the product for years.
I certainly don't know of any affiliation beyond that.

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PostPosted: Sat May 04, 2013 1:10 pm 
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Norman it was atarikid that asked the question
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I am very interested about your business and the development team. Could you please provide us a link so we can take a look at your work? Very curious about that.
not Kem

Appears that you all at RS are in need of an eyesight test or "atarikid" is really "Kem".

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sorry but RB has been full of these for years, still is and still many that have not been fixed as promised.


Have you ever bothered to check the bug counts on Real Studio, Xcode/Cocoa, and Visual Studio/.NET? Last time I did this Cocoa and .NET had more bugs.

Should we abandon Apple and Microsoft, and sue them in small claims court as well? :?

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PostPosted: Sat May 04, 2013 2:29 pm 
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:roll: but when i upgraded from Visual Studio 2010 to 2012 funnily enough I did get more than just a new IDE.

RS obviously appear to have a new business model, and end targets and goals. IMO Xojo will not survive hence the accelaration of other X-Platform products.

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PostPosted: Sat May 04, 2013 2:45 pm 
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:roll: but when i upgraded from Visual Studio 2010 to 2012 funnily enough I did get more than just a new IDE.

RS obviously appear to have a new business model, and end targets and goals. IMO Xojo will not survive hence the accelaration of other X-Platform products.


Honestly folks have been making this same prediction for as long as I've used realbasic, real studio, xojo.
That's 15+ years now

Instead of cheering on the car crash you seem to think is coming go use VS, be productive, make a zillion dollars & enjoy life.
It's much more fun.

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:roll: but when i upgraded from Visual Studio 2010 to 2012 funnily enough I did get more than just a new IDE.


I can't begin to stress how important a stable Cocoa release is. But some how that doesn't count?

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